Comic 647 - Try to save him

Posted on 2nd Dec 2017, 7:28 PM in Ghosts
Try to save him

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Morgenstern 2nd Dec 2017, 7:28 PM edit delete
You start attempting to see what parts of his brain you can get to communicate, and with what, to see what all he still has available.

The answer is... not much.

His brain is mostly there, but it seems like most of his organs have rotted away. His nerves are still stable in places, but badly damaged or non-existent in others. Currently, he's only alive because his body has amalgamated so well with the plant. The same system that keeps the plants alive is sustaining him.

You contact Dr. Finch, and inform him of the situation.

"Oh... oh dear. It... it it it may be possible to recover him, but it's going to require extensive surgery. Even if he can be saved, he will never quite be right again--it sounds as though his body has adapted to its present situation. His anatomy would need to be retrained to function independent of the bunker's nutrient system, for starters, and muscle control is an entirely different dilemma.

I also cannot begin to speculate how traumatic the last hundred years have been for him, or what impact that may have on his mental state. He... could possibly be saved, but quality of life creates a hefty moral quandary here. We could try to keep him alive, but I can't say with any real certainty he'd ever 'live' again."


rufiangel 2nd Dec 2017, 7:48 PM edit delete reply
Ughuuuuuuuuu........... ;___;

I don't know... if it IS possible, even in the slightest, then should we try it? If only because it's just so sad that he would have to have gone through the last hundred years of this kind of horror, and then die without at least even *trying* to salvage something of it. I know it's been awful for him and he wants to die, though... if he knew there was a chance he might actually be away from here and living outside of this room and away from these plants, albeit not quite like before, would he want to try it? Like if there's even a little bit of that desire in him then... you know, it's worth a shot. Otherwise it seems like it might be a bigger kindness to gently let him pass.

Steve 2nd Dec 2017, 7:48 PM edit delete reply
Send Finch in for science. Finch can probably learn something here. I want this room bleached later tho.
Lythar 2nd Dec 2017, 7:52 PM edit delete reply
You guys, we have to learn when to cut our losses. He's not savable. Kill him.
2FABZ 2nd Dec 2017, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
Mercy kill its not right to prolong this torture for him... for our peace of mind
Blue_Elite 2nd Dec 2017, 7:57 PM edit delete reply
If we're going to try and allow tube cops/lab meat to live normal, healthy lives; this is going to be no different.
If he ends up not wanting a second lease on life, well we can always end it; but let's first give him a full chance to actually make that decision himself. As long as we can do something to help we should; and we're in a unique position to help physically, mentally and emotionally.

EDIT: To Quote Michelle, "Someone grew a garden on Mars. We can do whatever we want."
Archon 2nd Dec 2017, 8:08 PM edit delete reply
Ask Finch if he's ever heard of a plant related mutant, and/or experiments combining plants and living beings.

I doubt its possible to separate the plant from the person, but properly integrating the plants to work in place of damaged/missing organs might be doable.

Really, there feels like quite a bit we could do here, with two catches.

1, I doubt we can save them. I'm not sure there's enough person left *to* save. Success would less be saving the person and more creating a mobile plant/person hybrid, with a mind of its own. Beneficial, but at the cost of what's left of this person.

2, We don't have a botanist on the team, much less a botanist with enough info on this sort of thing to be helpful. We could try hunting down notes on the project that were likely sold off, but I don't even know where we would start to look for that.
Mochi 2nd Dec 2017, 8:15 PM edit delete reply
it would be cruel of us to force him to continue to exist in this state. even if he does survive being separated from the plant, and the nutrient system. he's begging to be allowed to die. he's been trapped here in unimaginable pain and suffering for a hundred years. i think we should allow him to rest, finally.
skybirds15 2nd Dec 2017, 8:18 PM edit delete reply
Hmmmm. Is it possible to create a 'blank' body, perhaps using the bioprinter, and then 'transplant', using our blood, his brain into the blank? Then... 'he'd' be alive and without the retraining problem. Just like a star trek teleporter.
skybirds15 2nd Dec 2017, 8:19 PM edit delete reply
We could do this after knocking him out or something, so he's not mentally present to this situation for longer.
Mochi 2nd Dec 2017, 8:21 PM edit delete reply
he barely has any brain activity left, and i doubt we could transfer his entire consciousness. even then, there would be the issue of the trauma and suffering he's been put through, transferring his consciousness means transferring that. also, creating a fully functioning human body out of bioprinted parts is near impossible. if it was, carpenter would have an army.

also, the body would have to be printed piece by piece by piece. a bioprinter can't pop out an entire fully formed human person. especially not our bioprinter.
skybirds15 2nd Dec 2017, 8:50 PM edit delete reply
We might be able to. It depends if we have brains in our other-dimensional meatspace. We can definitely build a human body out of meatspace, through a blood puddle, and slap it all together. The brain is the hard bit, though maybe we somehow can shift his brain from the plant-bod to the clone-bod. Maybe.
Mochi 2nd Dec 2017, 10:13 PM edit delete reply
uh... no, we can't? if jane pulls any material from the Red to grow things they literally have to grow out of her body. she would need to grow a whole other human person from herself. and then sever the connections and give it independence and sentience. which would take a really long time and also mess her up pretty badly in the process considering the first time she tried to regenerate she put a mouth in her shoulder.
Baeronius 3rd Dec 2017, 3:10 AM edit delete reply
Star Trek teleporters are a nasty piece of work.

They kill everyone who uses them, and assemble a clone of the person at a different location. Literally, they copy a pattern, collect energy to recreate a pattern, then print that pattern.
Their teleporters have been known to produce more than one of a person, which proves that they do not actually transport anything.
Portal In Time 2nd Dec 2017, 8:25 PM edit delete reply
Portal In Time
Finch should be here first, but afterwards.. Let's get Fuse to "take care" of the place.

And by take care I mean burn down the place.
Blue_Elite 2nd Dec 2017, 8:41 PM edit delete reply
Limited oxygen and fire don't mix well with living.
Crestlinger 2nd Dec 2017, 10:02 PM edit delete reply
Was there a name given on that journal or is it possible to find that out from him? Would hate to find out it was Grizwald's grandpa gone missing or such after the fact. But if confirmed mentally (and physically here I guess too) a vegetable peacefully grant his request and send him off with a nice memory after copying the computer journal.
Guest 2nd Dec 2017, 10:27 PM edit delete reply
I vote we try to save him; if we succeed, we leave his fate in his own hands.
Baeronius 3rd Dec 2017, 3:20 AM edit delete reply
Ooh Xenobotany.

So first we must ascertain the actual condition of the person at hand.
If they have indeed fused with plant cells, then that means the plant has made integral adjustments to support the subject's life, and by extension it's own.

Using that as a conclusion, it may have been that many of the internal organs were simply redirected.

We'd need a better detail of what organs are there, and what are not. Because if the body looks mostly intact, that would require at least a partially symbiotic transformation between the plant and human cells.

So the plant may not like it if we attempt to kill the human, but if we can repair the human, the plant's current state of symbiosis may enable it to better merge with the human to come to a... physical consensus of sorts.

But as to the outcome of said request, that would be up in the air.