Comic 1164 - Play with possession

Posted on 13th Jan 2019, 7:42 PM in Chapter IX
Play with possession

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Morgenstern 13th Jan 2019, 7:42 PM edit delete
Morgenstern
You... might have an idea.

You ask the girls if they might want to experiment with possession--you have a... vessel, of sorts, they could test it on.

"Sure!," Faraday replies. "It could be fun."

You walk the Mini Mine from Bunker A. It... takes a little effort to get the door open, but you manage it. You walk her to Bunker E.

"Oh!," Faraday exclaims. "It's that doll again!"

"Well..." Tesla pauses, "we thought it was a doll."

You explain that Mini Mine is... almost a person, but not quite. Normally, you have to control her with your mind.

"Like a doll made outta people stuff," Michelle says.

"That sounds delightful," Edison replies.

You suggest that if one of the girls wants to try possessing it, it... shouldn't be too bad.

Faraday steps up. She takes a deep breath (you're not sure she needs to breathe, but)

and she touches the golem.

You can perceive Faraday's energy beginning to pour into the body of the miniature you.

"So..." Faraday begins, "you said our touch... it's as if we're moving into people? So I suppose I just need... to..."

Faraday leans forward... and with a little effort, the electrical field that comprises her form follows the extension that had began to run into Mini Mine. A couple of small sparks jump across the air around the golem as Faraday... er... gets sorted.

Mini Mine, with Faraday inside, blinks.

"Oh, this is--"

Faraday pauses, her voice sounding like a much smaller version of yours.

"--this is so strange!," she giggles. "I'm so small now!"

She spends a few seconds toddling around, waving her tiny hands at the air.

"I'm rather heavy."

Michelle shrugs, smiling as she watches Faraday wander about in Mini Mine's body. "I mean... y'ain't used to havin' a body, it's gotta be different."

Mini Mine's lack of a... well, a fully functioning brain doesn't seem to be hindering Faraday any.

Which... sort of makes you think.

Are you just possessing your body, at this point? You know full well that your brain is damaged, but... you've gotten to a point where you can replicate, instinctively, the neurological impulses and other electrical brain activities whether your actual, physical brain can handle it or not.

You've fought yourself on who you are--the human body, or the alien blood therein. There... may be a third option, at this juncture. You're you because of your soul. Your astral form carries the same thoughts, memories, and feelings your normal, physical form does. It's the same impulses and signals going off, just under a different, more self sufficient mechanism.

You're not really sure what this means for you, potential wise. If you take a bullet to the brain, you'll still die--jettisoning your spirit requires a ritual. You can't just... hit the ejector button at a moment's notice. If your brain dies while you're inside, your brain activity--you, everything that makes you you--goes with it. You can't really escape to your ghost any faster than you can escape to the blood.

Not yet, at any rate.


Faraday slooowly pulls herself free of Mini Mine's body, kind of tumbling onto the floor as she spills out.

"We can possess people!," she concludes.

"I cannot believe we're just learning this," Edison replies.

"We... never really tried?," Tesla points out.

Comments:

fellow 13th Jan 2019, 8:26 PM edit delete reply
fellow
Getting good, like, really good, at this soul stuff would be a nice safety net. And it'd be a nicer one than being the blood, since that leaves mine less mine than normally.

I wouldn't wager it to be an option against Nil though.
Crestlinger 13th Jan 2019, 9:00 PM edit delete reply
Tread carefully on issues of the soul. It's a real minefield in there.
Vanya 14th Jan 2019, 7:52 PM edit delete reply
This pun is atrocious. I love it.
Sekwel 13th Jan 2019, 10:08 PM edit delete reply
It *is* an interesting idea to think about, though. Maybe later. The girls don't quite *work* the same way we do, but I have to wonder if they're in any kind of danger if their vessel gets hurt? Maybe not, but maybe.

I suppose at any rate thinking about abstractions like this can only help with the upcoming encounter.
Lapdragon 13th Jan 2019, 10:36 PM edit delete reply
Lapdragon
Given Edison's past malicious ...episode, I'm not sure how I feel about her knowing this is an option. I'm not worried about her trying to possess Mine (as she can just flush her into the red), but if something triggers her and she flips out again, we might lose a couple of our friends.

I think we might need to get her some ACTUAL counseling in the somewhat near future, so that she can maybe better weather anything in the future that would ordinarily cause her to flip out - I don't really want to think about what would happen if she lost Faraday or Tesla again. As an example, I suspect that Nil(penter) might be quite capable of doing permanent harm to a little ghost girl or two.
Cuttlefish 14th Jan 2019, 2:05 AM edit delete reply
I agree that all three of the ghost girls need counseling, for their own sakes. Maybe Sharai or Mac's contacts might allow us to access some sort of anonymous internet trauma counseling of some variety.

As far as Edison or one of the other girls possessing someone on our team - we could likely open a small portal to the red using what they are blooded with without killing them, worst comes to worst.
Archon 13th Jan 2019, 10:51 PM edit delete reply
Huh. Mini-mine survived the possession.
Guess the little thing is sturdier than I thought.
Limrix 13th Jan 2019, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
Limrix
There are probably lots of things the girls can't do that they don't know yet! I think we can leave Mini-Mine here, though we should let the others know about this new development.
As long as Edison isn't bored, I think her sisters will be able to dissuade her from doing anything too disruptive. Let's see if we can get some toys, maybe magnetic building ones, and more reading material.

This seems like a good point to break off to begin practicing accelerating objects in the red.
We need a better understanding on what being the blood means before we can make use of this revelation I think, so let's shelve that for now.
Lunar Waffles 13th Jan 2019, 11:48 PM edit delete reply
Lunar Waffles
have we forgotten that Mini-Mine has an Eye-lazors?
Skullrama 13th Jan 2019, 11:33 PM edit delete reply
So, time to make a choice on how to spend our time and commit.

Try to make mechs for our friends to pilot?

Or focus on spiritual training for everyone, hardcore?
PurpleKetchup 14th Jan 2019, 12:50 AM edit delete reply
Hmm... it's probably harder to possess someone the stronger their soul is. Which means someone like Thale, who trained to impose itself over other people's will and consciousness for decades, is a poor target for this unlike mini-Mine.
Might want to warn Edison not to try that stuff against him so she won't do anything reckless.
Cuttlefish 14th Jan 2019, 2:10 AM edit delete reply
Possession poses a new potential method of piloting a meat mecha. Can a ghost girl possess, say, a Judy, or one of those meat bodies we built when dealing with that bone sword hunter mutant? If Mini-Mine's mini-brain has no impact on the ghost girl's consciousness, then can we just build, say, a dinosaur in the red and possess it? I know the ghost girls' possession works in a different and more powerful way to astral projection, but if we can get some of our non-combatants (Say, Pierce if he is willing) to a point where they can possess a monster mecha, that'd be pretty rad.
Cuttlefish 14th Jan 2019, 2:11 AM edit delete reply
Possession poses a new potential method of piloting a meat mecha. Can a ghost girl possess, say, a Judy, or one of those meat bodies we built when dealing with that bone sword hunter mutant? If Mini-Mine's mini-brain has no impact on the ghost girl's consciousness, then can we just build, say, a dinosaur in the red and possess it? I know the ghost girls' possession works in a different and more powerful way to astral projection, but if we can get some of our non-combatants (Say, Pierce if he is willing) to a point where they can possess a monster mecha, that'd be pretty rad.
Cuttlefish 14th Jan 2019, 2:11 AM edit delete reply
Sorry for the double post - not logged into an account so I can't erase it
Flaninious 14th Jan 2019, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
We’ve proved that possession is technically possible, but we don’t know the effects or effectiveness of possession on a body that actually has a mind.
Also, are we able to sync with a ghost that’s possessing mini-Mine? Because that IS a mind in a blooded body, technically.
1977 14th Jan 2019, 9:55 AM edit delete reply
We got Mini Mine by trading up a few small golems.
Trading up a few big golems like the one we made to drive a car should result in a Big Mine.
Ghosts can possess Mini Mine, Red should be able to possess her and therefore a Big Mine too.
So the real question is just the same from a few days ago.
Red, do you want a body of your own?
Limrix 14th Jan 2019, 12:05 PM edit delete reply
I think we need to be focused on what we need to do to beat Carpenter. The three things that most contribute to that are time acceleration, building blood noodles or surrogates in the red, and strengthening everyone's spiritual being. The first thing I want to do is accelerate, as that will give us more time for everything else, and possibly allow Mine to control the noodles while accelerated when the time comes.
I think blood noodles are better than golems, as they will be easier to produce given the limited timeframe than mechs and control systems. Even taking into account that Mine would need to control them herself, I think this is more likely to succeed. Constructing forms we can control remotely is the second highest priority, and only because accelerating lets us do it faster. Astral training could be powerful, but I think it's less likely to produce the results we need right now, so I'd rather not. Let's not get sidetracked. We do have an end of the world situation at hand.
Antarean 14th Jan 2019, 3:14 PM edit delete reply
Hm, I just had a thought. Would a possessed person be immune or at least resistant to the effects of the Many? Like, the Many might be able to override the person but the ghost might be able to override the Many's control. I'm not saying we should take the ghost girls into combat of course, we want to keep them safe and secure away from all that, but if some of the team does the astral projection ritual and then possess the other team members, then everyone could have their own backseat driver/copilot to prevent hijackings. Assuming of course that we'd be able to do that and that the ability isn't unique to the ghost girls.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong on this, but isn't there still a little bit of Nil inside Macland? I don't *think* we ever got around to completely fixing that. Supposedly Nil isn't able to do anything to Macland at the moment, but if we defeat Nilpenter he might be angry/upset enough to try to force it. Or maybe being linked with Carpenter let him realize a loophole to exploit or something. Either way, Nil might be able to attack Macland after we attack him and Carpenter, or maybe even during, which would probably be even worse.
Limrix 14th Jan 2019, 7:32 PM edit delete reply
Mac land is already blooded, so I think it would be difficult for Nil to pull something.
lil Joshu 14th Jan 2019, 9:20 PM edit delete reply
lil Joshu
Okay, so in the context of "Blood is Mine", a soul is a self-sustaining electrical imprint. Basically, low-grade sentient electricity. Although a human *can* generate one, it's not guaranteed; but in the event of physical damage, it can continue to exist in a degree (and the red can rebuild based off of it).

In short, for a human body + blood combo, it means that the body has a constant backup. Body damage can be replaced by the red as long as the imprint continues to exist.

Further, in our fight with the worm, imprint was damaged, but body was not, and rest was all that was necessary to heal the imprint. This means that either backup can be restored from the other, assuming at least one exists.

It has shown to be able to be damaged (so the idea of an 'immortal soul' is just silly when that's seen), but they can outlive a body given the proper circumstances.

Further, in facing off against, Nil, we need to strengthen our "souls" aka our electrical impulses.
From this angle, we've ALREADY found a way to increase spirit power:

Project Odin. We've done it once. It may be worth it to try again. It's way more effective than just sitting around meditating as far as increasing the strength of a soul/spirit/imprint. Like forget that whole archaic spend months training a horse to get you there slightly faster, we have a private jet. Further, we can combine project Odin with the red. Move the project into a room in the red. Turn it on full blast. The imprint expands to fill available space, and the red is infinite. We wouldn't even need to compress down because we'd physically be wherever our imprint expands to. Mine's body/mind would still be the nexus, but we could leave Project Odin running forever powered by bio-electricity from the Red. This means that there's a reliable source of identity, the body going down doesn't mean we're down (it's more like losing a hand), especially if we move our brain (which SHOULD be mostly repaired by now) and main thinking processes into the red.

This means we still have a centralized point of identity, but it's constantly expanding with density instead of getting spread thin like Thale's; complete with a central point (focused on project Odin and our brain in the Red).

At this point, we're not "posessing" our body, but it's still completely part of us. But a regrowable part of us if lost, like a lizard that can regrow its tail.
Kumondo 14th Jan 2019, 9:41 PM edit delete reply
Kumondo
So, since most of the comments here are speculation or suggestions for experiments for the future, allow me to suggest our next course of action.


First: I feel we should set a couple of ground rules for the ghost girls before we head out, rather than leave things to assumptions: First: experimenting with powers is cool and encouraged, but not on people with out consent, especially possession. Second: I believe we can safely let them roam about Bunker E (This one, which is the ghost bunker linked with Illworth) and, with somebody to go with them, Bunkers A and D. (Main and Mars respectively) If anyone else comes up with good rules to apply then feel free to add them in.

Then let's move on to our main projects for the day: begin experimenting with time shenanigans as described previously and by Limrix, starting out with affecting measurable thing inside the red while observing from out side, and progressing from there. Meanwhile, the rest of the team works on procuring watches, tinfoil hats, maybe magical music, and surprise boxes for trading via the Tradesman ritual and setting up a billboard message of Carpenter.
Michael Chandra 15th Jan 2019, 12:29 AM edit delete reply
Can we check on our network of spy pets? Haven't done that in a while now.